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Wherefore "the"?ED: Oops, I meant "wherefore". Thither with "whither"!

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I suspect it comes from urban slang. There was a popular rap song a few years back called "summertime in the L.B.C" (long beach county/city?) I think the OC is just another example of black americans...

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>> Summertime in the LBC.Gee, they didn't steal the hook from "Summertime and the living's easy".

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Yes, I suppose DD is right too. What I'm wondering, I suppose, is whether the usage is established, or coined for this show. I'm not even sure I heard people calling Orange County "OC", sans the, when...

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First, a bit of lily gilding. Adding "The" before a noun is sometimes used to bestow an inconic sense. Daffy is not a duck, daffy is the duck. WG is not simply a geek, he is the geek. I don't know how...

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There's also the LIE, the Long Island Express (or Expressway?). IRT, LIE...ooh, you got your chocolate in my peanut butter! No, your peanut butter is in my chocolate!

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OC - an attempt to be named like LA County. No Southern Cal county is abbreviated like LA- Ventura is Ventura, San Diego is San Diego,& the nation's largest county is San Bernardino etc, etc. Not...

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Didn't the 'white' Beatles, Paul McCartney in particular, sing "Back in THE U.S.S.R."

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Certain place names, like Union of Soviet Socialist Republics or Federal Republic of Germany or United States, take the definite article. This is done because grammar dictates use of the definite...

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Adding "The" before a noun is sometimes used to bestow an inconic sense.A conic section that is tangent to all sides of a triangle is called an inconic. Any trilinear equation of the form where x, y,...

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We do - or did - say 'the Ukraine', though, for whatever reason. Ukrainians are particularly touchy about this, however, and have requested that people not use the article with the name, as they feel...

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I've never seen the TV show being discussed here, and have never heard of a Newport CA, but the artsy-fartsy Newport is at the oppositite end of the country, in Rhode Island. Jazz festival, and all...

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My comments had much more to do with Joe's seemingly racist remark ("just another example of black Americans' affinity for dropping....")then about the appropriate or inappropriate use of 'the' before...

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A troll?

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Regarding the "seemingly racist remark," one must be careful when discussing or reading about such things as African American Vernacular English (AAVE). AAVE is a real dialect of English that is...

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I'm thinking I remember hearing vets talk about "the 'Nam," too. Or rather, hearing actors playing vets on TV talk about it.

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"I'm thinking I remember hearing vets talk about "the 'Nam," too. Or rather, hearing actors playing vets on TV talk about it."I have heard that there is a distinction between the usage of the army and...

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Doesn't seem very likely, though. If you google on "the Nam" and either 'army', 'navy' or 'marine' you get plenty of links to sites that are either official veterans' sites or run by veterans.

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Actually, looking back at my comment, I think I should be censured, not for racism, but for not knowing what the hell I'm talking about. My analysis of the topic was a complete stab in the dark and my...

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By the way, is the term "black American" considered offensive, or merely less formal and/or less PC than "African-American"? My memory of this is that Jesse Jackson advocated the use of...

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